PROGRESSIVE MOVERS INC, ABC PACKING SUPPLIES INC Complaint

BEWARE OF PROGRESSIVE MOVERS IN PATERSON - Moving Service

- Paterson/Lodi , New Jersey
On May 7 2010, I received a solicitation over the phone from a company called PROGRESSIVE MOVERS, INC. located in Paterson NJ. They offered me a rate of $70.00/hour, with 3 men, to move the contents of a 1 bedroom apartment. It sounded fair, I was given an estimate of 5 hours, since they afirmed they they knew exactly where to go, that their crew was very experienced and so on. This was told to me by a man called SAM. They actually have a location on 11th Ave in Paterson, between 5th and 6th avenues. Two individuals, SAM and GREG, sit there luring trustworthy hard working people to their web of deceit. Even though my contract says the move happened on the 13, they only showed up on the 14th (Friday). Instead of showing up between 8 and 9 AM, they show up at 10.15. A driver named (C)SID, and two helpers, one of them called PHIL. The other I could not get the name. If these are really their names. This Driver (SID), has me signing "basic procedural" pages, because of insurance regulations etc. I did, in haste because now I was getting charged 70 dolars an hour, and these were probably 10 pages. These guys were taking forever to load some very basic stuff on they truck, frequently taking smoking breaks, and talking on the phone, while SID spent "diligent" time wraping my furniture. I asked him why he was doing that, since it appeared to be very incovenient for me as I was under an hourly contract. He said they had to do it, because if it wasn't done, they would not be able to move my belongings. Well, as it was already running late, I figured this would cost me about a couple of hours more, but to my surprise, when we got finally to the destination, this driver SID from Saddle Brook New Jersey, gives me a bill on a scrap paper in the amount of $3,612.38. This bill interestingly enough, is presented by a company called ABC PACKING SUPPLIES INC. located at 282 N. MAIN STREET, LODI NJ, with a phone number (973)272 8272, even though 90% of the contents of the house had been previously packed by my wife, myself and my daughters. If I didn't pay this amount they would not take my belongings from the truck. To my astonishment, they charged me exhorbitant amounts for the tape they used the bubble wrap and shrink plastic, never solicited by me, or even not explained that I "had to pay for", but goes to the extreme of charging $300.00 because they had to go up stairs, and $150.00 for a "long walk", which was the paved path they had to walk on, since the truck could not go inside my apartment. I called the local police to no avail. And though the office manager SAM, told me the name of the owner was CONSTANTIN IGAROV, when the police officers in an effort to assist me got somebody that was supposed to be the owner on the phone, he introduced him self as KENNY. This character KENNY, offered me a settlement. If I advanced about $1100.00 in cash, he would unload my mattress so I had something to sleep on. The rest would be taken to storage until I paid the balance. I could not afford it. I was being held hostage and my personal belongings, held for ramson. They still have it. What I can not understand, is on top of everything else, RENT. COM continues to patronize these con artist. Thieves that act behind some shiels the law allows them to have, and the consumer has no defense or protection. To consider only normal, that an estimate of 350 dolars jumps to $3612.33,while holding one's belongings in their truck, is not just offensive, it is the absolute negation of the American Way. Well, according to this owner, KENNY/ CONSTANTIN IGAROV, this is the American Way. So I will be making my voice heard, as I can not fight otherwise. I simply do not have the means to do it. I trusted these people with family photo albums, and personel family heirlooms whose value goes far beyond a dolar sign. They should be sued and convicted, yet they walk freely, taking advantage of hard working law abiding people like ourselves every day. And do it remorseless and impunitively.


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Reader Comments:

Posted by 1girlsurfer on 05/17/2010
I would like to get the person who wrote this complaint to receive my comment. His story is almost exactly like mine. I guess Progressive Mover use the same scam over and over. I would very much like to help him. When I file a complaint, big deal. When an army files a complaint, maybe it will get noticed. This company needs their license revoked!

Posted by mellie120 on 07/26/2010
Please contact me to discuss Progessive Movers, Inc. and/or ABC Packaging Services, Inc. - Melissa G. - (93) 652-0902.

Posted by mellie120 on 07/26/2010
I can be contacted any hour of the day or night, any day. My phone number is (973) 652-0902. Melissa Gencarelli

Posted by angiepye on 09/01/2010
Hello, I had this same issue a few days ago and wish I had read all your comments prior to my move. I just noticed that their quotes are under PM INC, not Progressive Movers, and that's probably why there was no bad reviews when I initially googled "PM INC" or "PMI MOVERS."

Has anyone filed a complaint in BBB yet? These people really need to be put out of business otherwise there will be more victims!


Posted by mario.ratnakar on 09/20/2010
I Have complained to BBB and am filing a case in the local police station. I am willing to talk/work with anyone who wants to do something about this scum

Posted by msdotti19 on 10/05/2010
BBB is not the place to file a complaint. They really don't do anything for you. Best to call The American Movers Assn and the NJ Division of Consumer Affairs. I can give phone #s later...

Posted by msdotti19 on 10/05/2010
If you read my post above you will see that I was ripped off, screwed and raped by Progressive Movers (PMinc). I have the names of the owners of Progressive and ABC Packing if anyone wants them...

Posted by yanksoveratlanta on 11/03/2010
Contact the NJ Attorney General

They've been in trouble before:

http://www.state.nj.us/lps/ca/ocp/orders/ProgressMov.pdf


Posted by yanksoveratlanta on 11/05/2010
http://www.state.nj.us/lps/ca/ocp/orders/ProgressMov.pdf

"3.23 Respondents shall not: (a) hire, retain and/or utilize ABC Packing, Inc., to perform accessorial or other Mover’s Services


Posted by mkhan130 on 02/04/2011
The same thing just happened to me as well. Does anyone want to do anything about these movers? Maybe we can get together and do a lawsuit against them? please if anyone wants to do anything email me at mkhan130@gmail.com they have everything of mines and i want it back. i was given a quote of 350 and they charged me over 1100.00 bucks. I am a college student and they have all my books everything in there. please if anyone wants to get together and do a law suit against them please email me at mkhan130@gmail.com

thanks


Posted by eugenemover on 03/22/2011
Read this review after booking with them when i called them to cancel because of this review Sam talked me in to staying with them. So i did they Estimated me $350 at the end i paid $450 which wasn't that bad.. So I guess i got lucky..

Posted by calloway115 on 03/24/2011
This a the biggest ripp-off I have ever experienced!! The quotes they give are totally inaccurate and misleading.I will be contacting the Amer. Movers Assoc. to lodge a complaint. For those considering the services of this company at least have the vaseline ready if not some other form of retribution.

Posted by ronbust on 04/08/2011
I had the same issue when I called for a quote from New Brunswick to Morristown. Initial quote was $280.00 plus $70/ hr if it went over 4hrs.We did most of the packing ourselves. When we arrived at the destination which was on Saturday around noon on January 29 2011, they wanted $3000 in cash. I had got some extra cash of $1500.00 just in case. But $3000 was a ridiculous amount and how am I supposed to get cash when all banks close at noon on Saturday.They would not unload the truck untilwe paid them in full.This is one of the biggest scam ever!

Posted by dmspar on 05/03/2011
Thank you! I was planning on using them, but now I definitely won't!

Posted by playkate88 on 06/16/2011
I'm so upset that this has happened to so many people. I was also scammed by PMI back in 8/09. I JUST had my arbitration day today. Have to wait a few weeks for a decision. I'm hoping to at least be reimbursed the ridiculous "packaging" fees. I sincerely hope that everyone who has had problems with this company presses forward with their complaints and gets back the money they deserve. This company really needs to be shut down!

Posted by victimpmi on 07/30/2011
BEWARE OF PROGRESSIVE MOVERS INC !!!!!!!!!!BEWARE OF PMI INC MOVERS!!!!!!!!!

I got scammed by Progressive Movers Inc. DO NOT TRUST THEM AND THEIR QUOTE. They attract the customers with 70/-per hour quote. They are very very unprofessional and careless. They hardly worked two hours to load and unload but charged me for 5 hours Stair Charges Long Walk Very Dirty Blankets Tape Bubble Wrap. They threatened me to hold my belongings if I failed to pay the amount they demanded. They are professional thieves. BE CAREFUL.

I should have read the comments from other people before I chose this movers.

BEWARE OF PROGRESSIVE MOVERS!!!!!!BEWARE OF PMI INC!!!!!!!!


Posted by yanksoveratlanta on 08/07/2011
It's funny the only two positive comments come from, Olga Piskun and eugenemover. The owner of ABC Packaging is Eugene Piskun.

Posted by ALARIO on 09/08/2011
dear all,
please contact me at alario@ixnetcom.com if you are interested in grouping together to close this company
thanks to yanksoveratlanta on nov 3rd, attached a copy of a consent order by the attorney general. i called her today and was very interested in what i had to say about my experience and what i am reading below with all others this past year.
my email is alario@ix.netcom.com, tel 917 991 9589
deputy attorney general is Gina Betts tel 973 648 3070, "PLEASE CALL HER"


Posted by nouhad7 on 09/10/2011
I've just been ripped off by Progressive Mover PMI out of Paterson NJ as well. I couldn't believe it when I found all these other similar stories. I was quoted (via email) $210 with a $350 maximum to move my belongings, then while they were unloading the truck, they brought a "bill" on a scrap of paper of $1775, threatening me that if I didn't pay it they would put my belongings in storage until I paid, then I would have to pay again to get my belongings moved back. It felt terribly wrong, but I didn't want to lose my belongings, so I went

Posted by jackie.richards on 10/11/2011
I recently used Progressive Movers Inc. for a move and have never had a bigger regret. The finalk est. was $210 for 3 hours and 3 men. After they put all my belongings that I boxed and packed myself onto their truck, they handed me a bill for $890!! This is what they do

Posted by jackie.richards on 10/11/2011
Also they are under violation if they did not geive tyouy a physical est of your items to be moved. READ BELOW
http://www.memberize.com/clubportal/ClubStatic.cfm?clubID=669


Posted by jackie.richards on 10/11/2011
www.memberize.com



Posted by jackie.richards on 10/11/2011
New Jersey Warehousemen

Posted by jackie.richards on 10/11/2011
Konstatin Egrove, President 224 Westervelt Apt.7 Hawthorne NJ 07506

Posted by jackie.richards on 10/11/2011
http://www.njwma.org/ClubPortal/ClubStatic.cfm?clubID=669

Posted by jackie.richards on 10/11/2011
http://www.njwma.org/clubportal/ClubStatic.cfm?clubID=669

Posted by missgigglesnj on 01/24/2012
Did any of you bring them to court?? They pulled the same BS on me and damaged all my furniture throwing it into a storage van across the street from their office. I had to rent a van to go get my stuff and they didnt even help me load the van but most of my stuff was too damaged to even take back. I want to bring them to court, how much time do we have to take action?



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